Chapter 9 God blessed Noah and his sons and told them to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. Animals will now be afraid of them (“The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands.”) and they are now free to eat any animal as long as it doesn’t still have its life blood in it. Everything that lives and moves will now be food for Noah and his family. God now demands an accounting from every man and animal for the life of another human being. “Whoever sheds human blood, by human beings shall their blood be shed, for in the image of God, has God made humankind.” Be fruitful and multiply is said again. God now establishes his covenant with Noah and everyone who comes after him and all the living creatures that were with him. The covenant is that never again will God destroy life by a flood, there will never again be a flood to destroy the earth. This is what the rainbow is for: to show God’s covenant and promise that he will never again destroy life by flood. It’s a sign, that whenever God brings clouds and the rainbow appears, God will remember his promise. This whole chapter just repeats “This is my covenant. I will remember it every time I see it.” Ham, Noah’s son, is the father of Canaan. Why this is mentioned I have no idea. From the three sons came the people that were scattered over the whole earth. Noah, apparently a man of the soil, planted a vineyard, got drunk on its wine and passed out naked in his tent. Ham saw his dad was naked and told his brothers. Shem and Japheth covered Noah because they were embarrassed (who’s gonna see it?), but they walked in backward to cover him so they couldn’t see him. For some reason Noah is mad that his kids covered up his naked ass and cursed Ham’s son Canaan, saying he’d be a slave to his brothers. Canaan is to be the slave of Shem; Japheth’s territory is expanded and Japheth is to live in Shem’s tents and Canaan is to be slave of Japheth. After the flood Noah lived 350 years, living a total of 950 years, and then he died.
What does ‘blessing’ mean? How does God bless Noah? This verse is also where God tells humans they can eat meat. So ha! to all the vegetarians who say God wanted us to be vegetarians. He changed his mind. So there. But you can’t eat it unless you drain all its blood.
What is meant by ‘an accounting’? If someone dies/is killed someone else has to die? And why are the animals included in this? If a man is killed by an animal, must that animal die to atone for human blood lost? This seems pretty shitty and counterproductive to me. And why would God allow such a thing. Why would God plant in humans’ minds the idea of murder? He created humans…why wouldn’t he put only the best brother-loving-peaceful thoughts in their heads?
God also talks again in third person–God made people in God’s image
How can God say he’ll be reminded by the rainbow if he put the rainbow there? And rainbows don’t show up every time it rains. Why would God forget his promise? Why would he need a symbol to remind him? Or does he mean it’ll remind Noah? And God says he won’t destroy us by flood again, but he didn’t say anything about any other disaster…
This chapter practically admits to incest. From these three sons come everyone on earth. God wiped out everyone else on earth so Noah’s sons and wives have to procreate with somebody to be fruitful and multiply.
And now suddenly, after all that, we learn that Noah is a farmer. Like this really matters. Also, the math is wrong again. When the flood ended Noah was 601, so he should have died at 951. And God said earlier he wasn’t going to let people live past 120. Why is Noah so special?
I think Noah might be the first passed-out-naked drunk guy
Why does he get so mad that his sons covered him up? In the garden of Eden nakedness was suddenly shameful and now Noah WANTS to be naked and drunk, in his tent where no one can really see him? What exactly do these tents consist of anyway? For a full history of our supposed ancestry there’s a lot of important details lacking, I think.
Why the cursing of his grandson? That seems hardly necessary. And he praises the God of Shem. Who is Shem’s God? Is there more than one God? Why extend Japheth’s territory? None of this cursing and expanding makes any sense. And how old are these kids and grandkids anyway?
Chapter 10 The Table of Nations There’s a list of of Japheth’s sons, Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshek and Tiras. Sons of Gomer: Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah. Sons of Jovan: Elisha, Tarshish, the Kittites, Rodanites (“from these the maritime peoples spread out into their territories by their clans within their nations, each with its own language”). The sons of Ham: Cush, Egypt, Put and Canaan. Sons of Cush: Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabteka. Sons of Raamah: Sheba and Dedan. Cush was the father of Nimrod who became a mighty warrior. “Father of” doesn’t necessarily mean literally father of; it just kinda means ancestor of, so we don’t really know how many generations these ‘fathers’ are away from their offspring. Nimrod being a mighty warrior apparently explains the saying “Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the Lord.” The first centers of his kingdom were Babylon, Uruk, Akkad and Kalneh in Shinar. He went to Assyria to build Ninevah, Rehoboth, Ir, Calah, and Resen, which is between Nineveh and Calah, which is the great city, it says. There’s some more listings of sons’ sons, listed as Hittites, Kasluhites, Girgashites, Amorites, etc, seemingly indicating these men started entire races and cities. Later, it says, the Canaanites scattered and the borders of Canaan reached from Sidon to Gerar, to Gaza and Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboyim and Lasha, wherever those are. These are the sons of Ham, by their clans and languages in their territories and nations. This different languages is key when we get into the next chapter. There’s a listing of Shem’s sons and their sons and blah blah blah. This is the start of the ‘begats’ in the bible. More description of where the territories stretched. “From these the nations spread out over the earth after the flood.”
What nationality are these sons and how far did the ark take them from their homeland? Why the listing of all these names that seemingly mean nothing in the grand scheme of things in the Old Testament.
Maritime people came from this lineage? Where are they living and how/why did the develop a maritime culture? It’s said specifically that all these sons start clans within nations, with their own languages.
Why does it matter that Nimrod is a warrior before the Lord and how can there be a saying about him? This part had to have been added after, so the book was not all written at once, and is not cohesive and definitely not The Word of the Lord.
Why is it mentioned that certain cities were the first centers of his kingdom? Is this indicative of cities being built? Why is this mention important? Shinar is Babylonia.
Also, the family tree is kinda confusing and I’m starting to think it’s deliberately confusing so no one can follow it cuz it’s a bunch of bullshit. We are not descended from these people and it’s not possible. Plus all that incest would have to end somewhere with mutations I’d think.
I think I’d have to look at a map to determine these places and nationalities. It’s all so confusing.
Kasluhites=father of Philistines. Philistines are Jews aren’t they? Christians are technically Jewish…why the split between Christianity and Judaism and when did it happen? Jesus is descended from Jews. Are all of them Jews or did they spread out and have their own religions and beliefs? It’s all a lot confusing.
Chapter 11 Tower of Babel The whole world had one language and a common speech. People moved east, found a plain in Shinar/Babylonia and settled there. They told each other they’d make bricks and bake them, using brick instead of stone and tar instead of mortar. Then they built a city with a tower that reaches to the heavens so they could make a name for themselves and not be scattered over the whole earth. The Lord came down and saw this tower and got all scared, saying, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.” God scattered the people all over and they stopped building the city. This is why it’s called Babel, or Babylon, which sounds like the Hebrew word for confused, according to my footnotes. Two years after the flood, Shem was 100 and had Arphaxad. Lived 500 years and had other sons and daughters. Arphaxad had Shelah at 35 (starting young this time!), lived 403 years and had other kids. Shelah was 30 when he had Eber, lived 403 years and had other kids. Eber was 34, had Peleg, lived 430 years and had other kids. And more listing, right up until Abram is born. Haran (Abram’s brother) had Lot. While Terah (Abe’s grandpa) was still alive, Haran died in Ur where he was born. Abram married Sarai and Nahor (Abe’s bro) married Milkah. Milkah was the daughter of Haran, the father of both Milkah and Iskah. Sarai couldn’t have kids. Terah took his son Abram, his grandson Lot and Sarai and moved to Canaan. But they settled in Harran. Terah lived 205 years and died in Harran.
So I thought everyone had their own language? This chapter says they all speak one language. Hmmmmm….
How did they know how to make bricks and to use them instead of stone. How did they get tar? Where are they?
If they were all in Shinar, they weren’t scattered over all the earth. And all they knew of ‘earth’ was the area they lived in, so earth does not likely mean literally the whole earth.
Why didn’t God like them all working together/why was he afraid? Again, he should have known this would happen. Why wouldn’t his people being able to accomplish anything they wanted be a good thing? Also, why is building this tower so bad? They wanted to make a name for themselves. We’re taught they built it to be closer to God. That’s not what it says.
How are all these people the same kind of people from the same area, all living in Shinar but they speak different languages? Is that why whoever wrote this part added later that they spoke the same language and God didn’t like it?
Also, these people are dying at younger ages and having kids earlier, but it’s still not 120 years like God said before the flood.
And here’s the big one: Am I reading this right, that Nahor, married his niece Milkah? Milkah is the daughter of his brother Haran. Lot is Milkah’s brother and Abram’s nephew….still, NAHOR MARRIED HIS NIECE! and this is ok? I’m sure if I brought this up to some bible-thumping Christian they’d make some excuse. Nahor married his niece. That is incest. Period.
